DXM Tips and Tricks
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General DXM information:
Extraction and information on pure DXM powder:
Other interesting DXM information (or misinformation):
- EASY ACCESS: The latest fix is Over the
Counter...a newspaper article from the March 13-15, 1998 issue
of the Cheboygan Area Tribune, a newspaper based in Cheboygan, MI.
The paper gives a typical example of how media would prefer to
spread lies and misinformation about DXM just to get more money
through an "interesting topic". The sad part is that this is
nothing compared to many news articles I've read on other
General DXM information
Is DXM like acid?
> Hey all,
> I just went out and bought a 4oz bottle of Robitussin Maximum
> (active ingredient: Dextromethorphane Hydrobromide USP 15mg)
> the right stuff I assume?
> Anyway, I was wondering what some fun stuff to do while you're
> is..I've dropped acid 5 or 6 times before and that's always fun,
> 4oz of DXM much like this?
> I'm going to be drinking it myself, I will have 2 other friends
> but they will only be stoned and probably fall asleep long
> do, I will probably be stoned too..is this going to make the
> much better or worse?
I have been where you are at! When I heard about cough syrup being a
drug I instantly beleived that it would be like acid-that is not the
case. I drank a bottle and a half, then kicked it at my freinds
house-to my horror I found out the truth of DXM. Here's how DXM
works. Its more along the lines of Ketamin and dmt, drugs that you
don't move around to have fun with. they are drugs that take place in
the mind. With DXM, the best thing to do is to be by your self (And
BTW weed makes DXM a very uncomfortable drug, when I smoked a whole
fatty joint all by myself, then took a bottle of robo everything
became too intense. The music that I had playing was too intense, I
had to turn it off it was so, not all that fun.). Best time to do it
is at night, obviously, on your bed with your favorite song (doesn't
have to be any lame shamanic drum beat or anything, just songs that
you like). be warned, DXM is nothing like acid! At higher doses
people can't walk, and it is uncomfortable to keep yuour eyes open.
DXM lkiterealy seperates your mind from your body, allowing
incredible images to flow in your minds eye. So much cool shit will
be going on inside yuor head when your eyes are closed that you will
prefer your imagination to the real world. DXM produces no "visual
trips", the only visual distortion usually at higher doses, more
imagination that visual is the only way I could explain it. But let
me imphesise once again, I had probably one of the shittiest times of
my life doing that drug with my freinds, yet now I find DXM to be one
of the best drugs one could ever do (This is taking into
consideration its saftey as well! DXM is a very safe drug! It becomes
toxic at around 700 (note: this is misinformation, the real limit is
somewhere around 30mg/kg) mg for the average person, that's about 9
bottles, good luck drinking that much!). Whenever I do DXM I don't
ever plan to be walking around much. I just came back from europe,
and I did dxm on the plane ride home, it was a blast. Just sitting in
my seat, eyes shut having a ball.
Of course you are asking, well if it isn't like acid, then how is it?
You will see in your mind's eye dreams,-that's it, yes the best way I
can say it is that you will be dreaming while awake. there really is
no waay to explain it, key things to enjoying it however is to
usually be by yourself, unless others are on it as well, and be ready
to kick back for about 5 hours or more, with some music preferably.
DXM IS NOT A DRUG THAT MOVING AROUND A LOT IS A FUN THING TO DO!
How to avoid nausea on
This mainly assumes you will be drinking cough syrup because most of
it deals with not vomiting and making your stomach feel minty fresh.
I usually follow these when I take pills too, though.
1) Refraim from eating anything before taking the DXM. You don't have
to fast for a week, but wait until there's not much in your stomach,
so it will take effect quicker.
2) Eat carbohydrates before, during, and after taking the DXM. Not to
much, though. Just eat a little bread or munch on a few crackers.
This will help your stomach a lot and it will temporarily absorb some
DXM so you will feel less of an urge to vomit. Also, this helps ease
the impact of the glucose on your stomach.
3) Get some OJ. Orange juice. Right after you chug the DXM, drink
some juice. Since DXM is a base and OJ is acidic, it will help even
out your stomach. This really helps a lot.
4) Get someplace to lie down. Don't use a waterbed, either. It feels
very natural to kneel in front pf a toilet with one hand on your
stomach for a little bit after drinking a whole bottle.
Note that these don't just apply to stuff with guafinesin (which
causes vomiting). Just the taste of most cough syrups will make
anyone a little queasy. If you do all these steps, you shouldn't barf
.pneyz.ganja -/- firstname.lastname@example.org
Chlorpheniramine Maleate and
> I need desperately to know the overdose rate for
> Maleate. How much can one take safely without negative(and
> dangerous side effects.
Personally, I've would up getting well over 150mg without any
problems.... chlorpheniramine (and for that matter the phenindamines
as a class) if one of the least toxic antihistamines....
A quick tip from experience- you'll find an antihistamin/DXM trip's
more fun than straight DXM anyway, IMHO....
The availability of DXM in
other countries besides the US
DXM in Australia
> I hope this hasn't been beaten out at some time already, but are
> any Aussies around with recommendations re DXM sources here?
> What about *pure* DXM? Anyone?
Youre outta luck for the pure stuff... All I can say is there are
plenty of common chemist cold and flu tablets that have a mixture of
pseudoephidrine and dxm in them. Orthoxicol being one brand. Some
have paracetamol and youd do well to avoid them ones at all costs.
Unless you are confident you are able to extract the dxm relatively
pure from the shit.
Or you can chug down robitussen DM (has guafenisen - Makes you sick
as, but is the strongest of the dxm brands!) or Robitussen DM-p which
has Pseudoephidrine instead of guafenisen, and half the amount of
I prefer the psuedoephidrine as I dont really mind the shit speedy
effect, but you need to drink at least two bottles of that shit..
Believe me, that is a hard thing to do. Like drinking glue and
rasberry cordial without water.. I've heard that you can get stroke
from excess Pseudoephidrine, aswell. Look it up properly if you want
to be sure..
I heard somewhere that if you freeze it, you can remove the
guafenisen from the dxm? I dunno but it might be worth a try.
BTW, if you know of any tablets that contain DXM and pseudoephidrine,
let me know.. i'm sick of trying to read the lables on the boxes when
the nurses are asking me 'may I help you'... :)
DXM in Italy
>Does anyone know whether DXM is available in Sweden? Can anyone
>there tell me in what name it's distributed and the best way to
I live in Italy, any I used Fluprim by Roche and I think it's
available all over Eurpean Comunity.
It's GREAT 300 mg per bottle of lozanges or syrup. 327 mg per box of
tablets (20 tablets) and it's the ONLY active ingredient. Otherwise
try Vicks for DRY cough (one with the red label) but it has only 150
mg per bottle of syrup and sometimes made me on the point of puking
only because of its taste
Please tell me if it 's available in Sweden
DXM in Germany
In germany, DXM comes under the name of Dr. Rentschler Tuss
Hustenstiller Retardkapslen. If you just call it Dr. Rentschler,
Germans will know what you mean.
I was watching the telly and an advert for Vicks Vaposryup came on.
That one with the scottish bloke with the bucket of water and window
scraper. In the small print at the borttom of the screen i just
noticed something like:
"Contains Dextromethorphan and Guifenasin."
So i know one brand in the Uk with DXM in now. Anyone else know any
others? Hear too much about the US ones, but never uk. So next time i
get a cough ill have 4 times the recommended amount, which i guess
shouldn't make me feel sick and give a lower first plateau effect.
Ill say it again: Anyone else know any others Uk brands?
DXM in the UK
Vick Vaposyrup Dry Cough; contains 20mg of Dextromethorphan per 15ml.
I didn't note how many ml's were in the bottle unfortunately, i would
guess 200ml. So thats about 300mg-350mg per bottle. Its about
£3.49. The additives are the regulars like alchohol and sucrose,
nothing that struck me as being dangerous to consume in large doses.
I did only get a 10 second glance at the box in a pharmacy. Whoever
goes out and tries this; i would suggest a 1/3 of a bottle first
time, to test the water as it were.
here is a list of what I hope are all UK medicines containing DXM,
listed in alphabetical order. If I've missed any, well, what the
fuck, nobody's perfect.
- Actifed Compound Linctus
- Actifed Junior Cough Syrup
- Benylin Dry Coughs Non-Drowsy
- Benylin Dry Coughs Original
- Bronalin Dry Cough Elixir
- Contac Coughcaps
- Covonia Bronchial Balsam
- Covonia For Children
- Day Nurse Capsules
- Day Nurse Liquid
- Flurex Cold/Flu Capsules with Cough Supressant
- Franolyn for Dry Cough
- Lemsip Night Time
- Meltus Dry Cough Elixir, Adult
- Meltus Junior Dry Cough Elixir
- Night Nurse Capsules
- Night Nurse Liquid
- Nirolex Lozenges
- Owbridges for Dry, Tickly & Allergic Coughs
- Robitussin Chesty Cough with Congestion
- Robitussin Dry Cough Full Strength (recommended)
- Robitussin Junior Persistant Cough Medicine
- Sudafed Linctus
- Vicks Children's Vaposyrup
- Vicks Coldcare Capsules
- Vicks Vaposyrup for Dry Coughs (recommended)
Before diving headfirst into any of these substances READ THE LABEL
FIRST. Not all are suitable for abuse. The Junior versions are often
not good value for money.
Avoid like the plague anything which contains paracetamol. The
average drug abuser's liver has enough do do without detoxifying
unnecessary shit like that.
Next, avoid if possible stuff which contains useless ingredients like
guiaphenasine, (aka guiaphenasin, guaifenesin,etc) and
Swallowing large quantities of stuff like sugar and menthol is just
one of the crosses that you are going to have to bear on the path to
enlightenment I'm afraid.
I look forward to seeing the Which? report on abusable DXM OTC
medicines. Robitussin Super Strength Capsules are reputed to be #1,
but I cannot find them
DXM in Spain
I live in Spain and bought Romilar, by Roche.
It has DXM as the only active ingredient.
The syrup has 15mg/5ml in a 150ml bottle, which makes 450mg in a
It also comes in boxes of 20 tablets with 15mg per tablet, and drops
(lozanges?), with 15mg/ml in a bottle of 20ml, that is, 300mg
DXM in Denmark
I live in denmark, and has recently discovered dxm, i have only tried
1st and 2nd plateau doses, in denmark you can buy some pills called
"Dexofan", they come in a package of 20, with 30mg in each, this is
much easier to take, than drinking cough syrup.
Making Robo easier to
This is a suggestion for people who have trouble drinking a bottle of
cough syrup, try putting some in a big mug of coffee it makes the
coffee barely bareable but much better than straight cough syrup. it
works, I happen to be drinking some as I write this, and the coffee
doesn't taste nearly as bad now as it did when I started. This is my
third time doing DXM and I think I could get to like this....
I always take it one shot at a time, swallowing the shot before it
hits my tounge, and washing it down with a bunch lemonade. No problem
Here's something that works really well, even tho it seems a bit
eccentric: What you need:
1 glass full of water
1 glass with as much Robo as you want to take
Running COLD water
first, take a sip of water. be SURE, no matter what you do NOT smell
the cough syrup, it'll make you wanna gag! Then, take about 5-6 fast,
deep breaths then plug your nose and drink all of the cough syrup
without unplugging your nose. immediatly drink the remaining water in
the glass. then drink 2 more full glasses. now, with your nose still
plugged, coat all of your mouth with toothpaste and the, exhale
slowly through your mouth and nose. Minty Fresh!
On the note of getting it down, I would recommend those two bastions
of western civilization: EZ-Cheez and NuGrape. (Ginger Ale also works
well, but NuGrape is so far the best) The EZ-Cheez helps with the
thick coating in the back of your throat, and the NuGrape makes the
robo, or locally Vicks 44 Cough Relief (tm), taste like the much more
palatable Dimetapp (tm) grape flavored non-nasty cough stuff, which
unfortunately contains too many ingredients to be useful in the same
capacity. Another technique that may or may not work with Vicks,
depending on when the last time you did it was, how much you hate it,
and whether you can stand to do it again, is to go ahead and smell it
until you're used to the smell, then drink it. Out of the three times
I tried this, it worked once really well. The other two times it made
me really ill. REALLY ill. Most of all, if you're going to drink
three bottles of cough syrup, don't eat twizzlers and junior mints
together for a few days or you will, I repeat you *will* not like
To make Robo Jello, go by directions on Jello box, but instead of the
cup of cold water substitute 8oz Robo. Chill as directed. The jello
traps most of the nasty taste of the Robo and slides down fairly
easily. This will recipe won't win any culinary prizes, but may help
those who that have trouble stomaching 8ozs of cough syrup. Bon
Fruit Roll-Ups Method (with powder form)
I went to the store and bought a package of fruit roll ups. The fruit
candy came rolled in thin strips about one inch wide. I measured out
some DXM powder then tore off a three inch long strip of fruit roll
up and creased the middle like a rolling paper. I then poured the
powder into the roll up and folded the ends together and made a small
ball of it with the powder inside.
The fruit roll passed plaeasantly over my tongue and went down
without a hitch. No hint of yucky DXM. This seemed like the perfect
delivery method. No nasty syrup, no gross powder, no sucking cough
drops for an hour. In a short time I was getting a buzz and feeling
quite pleased with myself.
Lemon-shot method (with powder form)
I just received my dxm powder from Wanman. Now, I don't really like
the idea of capsules because of the noticbly long set in time. So, I
was trying to think of ways to just take it fast. I tried orange
juice but that didn't work worth a shit. Made me gag a lot. After
many different tests I finally figured it out. DxM appears to
dissolve in pure lemon juice. Plus the overbearing lemon flavor hides
the chemical taste of the dxm. Just take a small amount, say 2
tablespoons of pure lemon juice and dissolve your amount of dxm into
it. Then drink it like a shot and chase it with something good, such
as o.j. Worked for me, thought I'd pass it along.
Techno-Perfume method (with powder form)
Maybe it's time for my recipie for ....
- 1/2 shot citron vodka
- 1/2 shot Lemon Blitzer
- DXM HBr in lemon juice, OR DXM citrate (from Acid Lemon
- lemonade (minimally sweetened) to taste
Alcohol may be doubled (if you are using a lot of DXM). The alcohol
helps dissolve the DXM citrate (extracted from syrup via Agent
Lemon), and also helps the taste a bit.
"It's an acquired taste". Actually, not too bad after you get the
hang of it. I don't think of this as a shooter. The name, which
incidentally is the title of a book in progress about DXM users and
culture, comes from the taste of the product when made with extracted
DXM and reflects not only the powerful tastes of DXM and Lemon
Blitzer, but also the taste of the residual flavorings in cough
Other quick ways to down cough syrup
- Saltine crackers work WONDERS when downing a bottle of cough
syrup. You'd be surprised.
- Chill the syrup in the fridge for a few hours before
- Use a straw
- Someone told me to use a funnel, so that it bypasses the
tastebuds, but I don't recommend this because it is
- Make some sort of cocktail out of it
Other quick ways to down powder
- I've heard of people snorting it. It burns like hell, but it
works. You don't taste the DXM either when snorting it. Remember
that I don't recommend you do this.
- Put the powder in a straw and stick it down your throat...kind
of like funneling it, but with powder.
- Do something similar to the fruit roll-ups method. Be
- Empty out some candy and put the powder in it. Swallow the
candy like a pill. Candy doesn't take as long to dissolve as a
Info on the Coricising
The Coricising Acquired Tolerance Effect:
The interesting thing about Coricidin is, unlike Robitussin or any
other method of use I've found, Coricidin seems to induce a highly
negative response to constant users. This usually begins as a mild
nausea at smelling the pills, progressing to nausea at the sight of
them, thinking of them, etc.. Eventually, it seems to progress to
vomiting *every time* you take them, and so on up until the person
can actually vomit at seeing the BOX of pills in a store. This has
happened to over 20 people I know personally, including myself. One
friend who took roughly 900mg a day for a summer, vomits if you even
mention coricidin to him. Personally, I have to physically stop
myself from vomiting upon looking at the box. Thus, I do not take
Why you shouldn't take Benylin
DON'T TAKE "BENYLIN ADULT FORMULA" COUGH MEDICINE FOR RECREATIONAL
It is rumored (also in the faq) that it contains castor oil, which is
kinda like guaifenisin, except in addition to vomiting, it makes a
person have diarrhea. It happened to someone close to me who has
DXMed a hundred times and has never vomited more than once before
while on DXM. He was on the toilet all night and was puking in a
bucket in front of him. Reports of this have also appeared on #DXM
(efnet). I've found Benylin cheap, so it is good for extraction
purposes only (unless the castor oil ends up in the finished
Benylin adult formula comes in an orange and white box. It contains
4fl oz. of medicine and 354 mg of DXM as the only active ingredient.
It is funny how castor oil is not listed as any of the ingredients.
Then again, if anyone was to find a way to sew Parke-Davis and win,
it would mean that DXM as an OTC drug would be in the past, so just
don't drink the stuff.
Info on DXM and Serotonin
This is actually very important. I took DXM about a year ago, while
on Paxil, an SSRI similar to Prozac. Serotonin syndrome most
certainly is a result and very, very, very, unpleasant. Vomiting and
something which can not even begin to be called something as pleasant
as diarrhea were two of the major side effects. I got off the
medication and tried it again, which took guts, believe me. No bad
effects. In any event, warn people. If they are on Prozac, Paxil, or
Zoloft, the results could be anywhere from extremely unpleasant, to
deadly. Any other drugs in that class, or MAOIs, for that matter,
could be reeeeeeeally nasty. When I tried it, there was no
information whatsoever about this, and one person even told me that
it would "Probably be okay" if I took them together. It wasn't. Not
to down DXM, or Paxil, just the combination.
combining DXM and ecstacy
This describes the feeling of DXM & Ecstacy.
I call it Robo-Flipping
1. How To Do It?
Take your E. About 30 minutes after the E hits you, take a 1st
plateau of DXM. Find a comfortable place to sit until the DXM nausea
passes. After you feel fine get up and walk around.
2. What are the effects?
The feeling over you body is incredibly. Just like the incredibly
tingle you get over your body with Ecstacy, yet it feels as though
something is trying to push out from under your skin. It doesn't feel
bad though. It's a good feeling. The tingle is very aggressive.
Simliar to taking N20 while on Ecstacy. The thing is that the tingle
comes in waves. Small waves and then biger and bigger until you come
down. The waves work in almost the same way as combining LSD with
You feel as though you are floating over everything. You feel more in
control. Anything you uncover about yourself on DXM becomes more
positive and clearer with the Ecstacy.
Auditory effects are incredible, its as if the music you hear is
being absorbed by your whole body and shot out through your head or
feet. A feeling of being the music.
3. How is the comedown?
It makes the Ecstacy comedown much more gentle than before.
4. What NOT to do!
Take the ecstacy after the DXM. It will kill the DXM and the Ecstacy
and leave you feeling spun or jet lagged.
Take any alcohol with it. Guaranteed to bad trip!
I do not know about using Ecstacy with anything above a first plateau
DXM trip. I advise caution if you try to do so.
Hope this information is beneficial.
Recreational DXM use mentioned
in a college textbook
Just picked up a college textbook called "Drugs, Society, and Human
behavior" for a little recreational reading. It is suprisingly very
informative and covers a large range of drugs, from DMT to tobacco to
prescription drugs. It is copyright 1996, so it is quite updated. I
recommend it for anyone who is interested to read about how drugs
work without too many complex scientific terms.
anyway, back to the purpose of this message: In the chapter on OTC
drugs, DXM gets it's very own page with its story on abuse potential.
here is a little blurb:
High school and college students have been 'getting high' with
large doses of OTC cough suppressants containing dextrometrophan
(DM). Possibly, students first came on the effects of DM by drinking
large quantities of Robitussin containing alcohol. However, the
effects reported by those using 4 to 8 oz (up to 720 mg DM) could not
be due to the less than 1/2 ounce of alcohol in them in include
visual and auditory hallucinations and in some case seizures. The
altered psychological state may last several hours. The few cases
reported in the literature and individual reports from college
students indicate that habitual use (twice a week or more) is
They go to mention how the Swedish govt has restriced DXM, and how
there were 2 DXM related fatalaties in Sweden, and how in the US, DXM
has been underground, spread by word of mouth,etc.
But one interesting thing. They actually QUOTED a USENET posting to
describe the experience!
One 1995 posting to the alt.psychoactives newsgroup on the
Internet described a user's first DM experience, after taking 20
capules of an OTC cough remedy (600mg DM).
They go on to quote a story of flying and leaving the body and such
anyway .. looks like the DXM thing is getting a little popular, being
mentioned in a college textbook..
DXM and flashbacks
>Now though every so often i will be sitting at the computer or
>and suddenly this wave of dissociation, for lack of a better
>over me and i get a hint of what my trip was like.
In all likelihood it's just a flashback (which can happen with any
intense experience), where something (often something subtle in your
environment, or in you subconscious) brings back the memory of how it
felt on DXM.
There are a few other (rare) possibilites. Can you be a little more
specific about a few things ... in particular,
- how does your "body" act while this happens?
- is there any feeling or sensation that happens right before it
- how do you feel after it is over?
- does anything seem to trigger it?
Flashbacks can be unsettling but if you aren't bothered by it, well,
think of it as, like you said, a glimpse of an interesting way of
perceiving the world. But if it gets worse, I'd see a
-response by William White. Taken from usenet alt.drugs.
Why you shouldn't take DXM
pills with salbutamol
>I am interested in the health effects of these cough tablets,
>Comp. One tablet contains 30mg dextromethrophan and 2mg
>haven't heard of this salbutamol before. If one would consume 30
>tablets (that would be 900mg DXM and 60mg salbutamol), how would
>effect, besides the DXM trip? Is salbutamol harmful at 60mg? What
>effect would it have on the body? If it is not healthy to take
>amount of salbutamol, how much of it would it be recommended to
*DO NOT* use these recreationally. Salbutamol is a beta agonist, used
as a bronciodilator (often for asthma). In large doses it can cause
heart irregularities, panic attacks, high blood pressure, and if you
take too much, death due to heart failure. Adding in DXM to this
means you may very well be dead by the time you reach a recreational
dose of DXM.
-response by William White. Taken from usenet alt.drugs.
Hi, im wondering if anybody here has experence DXM vision. I define
DXM vision as shutting your eyes while "not" on DXM and seeing a
grainy still shot of what your eyes where focus upun before you
closed them. Also, if I focus my eyes upun something, let's say the
wall for instance, the light will bend and move, sometimes little
laser lights will appear. I haven't did DXM for 2 weeks, so could I
be suffering from DXM withdrawel or something? Thanks for your
Yeah ... actually most people get that *if* they concentrate and
focus on their afterimages. DXM just makes you more aware of it,
that's all. There's also that weird "liquid vision" effect at high
doses where people describe it as looking through a thick, clear
liquid, and then the effect someone described to me as the "Third Eye
Wacky-Cam" where it feels like you can close your eyes and still see.
I think the latter is related to what you're describing. Most
psychedelics dork with vision.
>Also, if I focus my eyes upun something, let's say the wall
>instance, the light will bend and move, sometimes little laser
>will appear. I haven't did DXM for 2 weeks, so could I be
>from DXM withdrawel or something? Thanks for your time....
I doubt it's withdrawal, it's probably just the same mechanism as
flashbacks, and will probably go away with time. If you're worried
about it, take a multivitamin daily and get plenty of exercise and
sleep; not a specific cure but generally good for body and brain.
There does seem to be a withdrawal from extremely regular DXM use but
I've never heard of what you describe. That's not to say it isn't
possible, I just think it's more likely that it's either a sort of
flashback, or that you are just newly aware of the numerous
idiosynchrasies of visual processing (which most people can see if
you point them out).
Slight flashbacks after
Hey does anyone ever notice if you smoke pot or a cigs a few days
after a DXM trip you can bring back the empathy effects and tracers
somewhat? I last dosed 2 weeks ago and I still can do this a little.
Oh yea btw I had a little flashback today, I was in the shower today
and the walls appeared to be moving in and out like they were
breathing. I used to be a heavy DXM user back in DEC and Jan, now I
quit for good, I only use DXM when I have a cold now. I assume since
I do not dose anymore these flashbacks and what not will go away
I noticed this to with great joy after my first acid trips. And after
doing ecstacy 20 or so times, and acid perhaps 10, I find that these
effects are strongest just right after the grove-fealing. Trips
permanently alters the effect of hash and pot, all highs are
influenced by your experiences, so a person that has a bad trip might
not like to smoke hash and weed that often. But for people who love
tripping, pot just gets better :)
I was prescribed this drug as a child from ages 6 until 16, when
puberity finally alleviated my allergies.
It was a prescription drug for many years--and for good reason.The
first year I was taking it I kept falling asleep. I was on 25
milegrams at a time, and that was in a time realease capsule--of
course being 6 I probably only weighed --? I don't know ,maybe 50
lbs. I then went to 12 milegrams in a time released capsule and that
was what I needed to alleviate my allergies but there were side
effects still Mainly an edgy feeling that just cannot be ignorred and
a pressure in your head that sometimes was present and other times
not. When it became an over the counter drug it was packaged in 4 mg
tablets--so thats what I took Not being time released anymore--the
medicine hit you all at once and 4mg was enough to cause the edgy
feeling but not the pressure headache.In highscool I started dosing
on lsd and the easily available but yucky mescaline tablets. My
alergy medicine was a buzzkill. More importantly than that though--If
people are going to get a buzz off cough medicine(something I have
never done or heard of anybody doing)if taken in large quanities ,
chlorphineramine maleate is painful to your brain--a headache will
ensue that wont go away until its out of your system and then you
will still feel terrible because of what it did chemicaly to your
brain. Its not a regular headache or one that I could describe to you
in terms of comparing it to other headaches it is unique to this
medication and others like it. When it was going through trials at
the FDA the drug companies used all there muscle and infuence to get
it made over the counter. It really shouldn't be!!
I spent this time writing this letter in such detail because after
browsing through your site you didn't seem to put enough emphasis on
this subject. It should be there right below acetamenaphine not as
toxic but the prolonged effects of abusing or using it are a
decreased mental accuity and focus and in general a shitty mood that
you may not understand a lower quality of life not a better one!!
Extraction and information on pure DXM
DXM taste in freebase
> I've just made my first batch of DXM , extracted from Robitussin
> and i noticed that i got a strong numb sensation of the mouth
> Is this from the DXM itself, or isn't my base pure ?? Does
Interesting. sure it's dxm freebase and not cocaine freebase? :)
i've extracted dxm from robitussin max strength cough and cold, but
*never* from robitussin dm. the "dm" version contains other compounds
which i would expect to interfere with the acid-base extraction. (i'm
not sure off hand what the other compounds are...)
if you've done the extraction properly, you should get a nice
collection of fine, pure white crystals. that's the dxm... at least
when you do the extraction using robo max strength cough and cold. a
taste of pure dxm will leave you the nastiest, most bitter taste you
could imagine. if your extraction wasn't the best, but still pretty
damn decent, you might get a little orangish/reddish gel stuff in the
crystals. that's nothing to worry about, since that's just the
syrup/glycerin that the cough syrup is made of. sometimes a little
gets through to the evaportation stage of the extraction.
no matter how you extract it, a taste of the final product should not
give you a numbing sensation of your lips/mouth; it should be
what kind of base did you use? what was your non-polar solvent? every
time i extracted the dxm, i used 3.4N sodium hydroxide as my base and
hplc grade n-heptane as the non-polar solvent. seems to work
>i've extracted dxm from robitussin max strength cough and cold,
>*never* from robitussin dm. the "dm" version contains other
>which i would expect to interfere with the acid-base extraction.
>sure off hand what the other compounds are...)
the DM version works just fine, it just has less DXM total in the
bottle (2/3 as much), which you need to take into account when
figuring dosages. the other compounds all come out in the
>if you've done the extraction properly, you should get a nice
>of fine, pure white crystals. that's the dxm... at least when you
the other extraction method doesn't produce those crystals... just a
clear (or milky, if you substitute ascorbic acid for the citric acid)
>extraction wasn't the best, but still pretty damn decent, you
might get a
>little orangish/reddish gel stuff in the crystals. that's nothing
>about, since that's just the syrup/glycerin that the cough syrup
>of. sometimes a little gets through to the evaportation stage of
the alternate extraction method always gets all of the syrup/glycerin
out, but if you do the extraction not quite right (i.e., not enough
ammonia), you'll just have less DXM in the final product. the one
time it happened to me, i just ended up in plateau 1 instead of
What is the shelf life of
> Does anyone know the shelf life of extracted DXM HBr? I would
> that it might have something to do with the expiration date,
> again, the extracted DXM isn't affected by the inactive
Keep it away from light and temps above 60F/16C (store it in your
refrigerator) and it should last almost forever.
What's the best method of
ingesting DXM freebase?
>My big plan upon ordering USP-grade DXM was to ingest the
>by emptying a few cold capsules and filling them with the
>Now that I actually have the powder, though, this seems a bit
>daunting. The cold capsules I have won't open easily; they're
>"tamper-proof", darn the luck, and I can't quite seem to
>the contents of one without breaking it.
Many "health food" stores sell empty gelcaps. Or, just look for any
cheap stuff in regular gelcaps (Vit. C maybe) and use them. Actually
filling the caps can be a little tricky. It helps to find a nail with
a head that just fits the cap; use it to tamp down the material. Use
a piece of glossy paper, or foil, maybe 3x3 inches and crease it down
the middle to make a kind of "funnel".
>My question is, has anyone found an ideal method of ingestion of
>powder? By ideal, naturally, I mean without having to taste the
>powder at all, and preferably in one gulp. A friend of mine
>using rice paper to wrap my dose, so we might try that. Any
>other suggestions are very welcome.
Caps are very handy! You might try mixing it in tangy V8 juice; this
will cover a lot of tastes.
What's the best cough medicine to
> Whats the Best cough medicine for it??
The best is the generics that list Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide as
the *only* active ingredient. DXM is the same no matter who makes it.
Stay away from the syrups that also contain Guaffinsen syrup or
Acetamenophin. Acetaminophin is Tylenol and can cause kidney failure
in overdoses, causes almost instant and excrutiatingly painful death
(I know someone that OD'd on it). Guaffinesen syrup is an expectorant
that helps you cough up phlegm when you cough. You'll also notice
that there is A LOT more of it than DXM per dose on the bottle. This
is because in high volumes it causes nausea and vomiting. You'll also
notice that this chemical can be found in other OTC drugs like
Mini-Thins, for the express and sole purpose of discouraging people
from taking high doses of the drugs (Mini-Thins used to be pure
ephedrine aka "legal speed").
> What the easiest procedure?
I have found that the easiest procedure is to pass up the syrups
(they make me gag) and buy a box of Drixoral Liqui-Caps. The
Liqui-Caps are pure DXM (with a little food coloring), and do not
have the taste or the syrup fillers that cough syrup does. The caps
are 30mg a piece and come in boxes of 10 (which comes out to 300mg
per box for those of you who are mathematicly challenged). The boxes
usually run around $5.00 US, and are available in drug stores and
grocery stores throughout the US. Again, take note of the box and
make sure that the only active ingredient is DXM (Drixoral makes
these things with all the extra goodies too, e.g. "Cold Caps", etc.).
The caps do take a little while to dissolve, but when you figure the
syrup dilutes the DXM in your stomach it evens out to about 45
minutes before you feel the effects. I you have never done DXM, I
would STRONGLY recommend starting at a lower dose and working your
way up. Seeing as a DXM trip can last anywhere from roughly 8-12
hours, you really don't want to be further gone than you expected for
that long. Also, dissociatives can be nauseating to some people in
high doses. The "hangover" that some people experience is mostly a
feeling of groginess the day after. I noticed that I was yawning the
entire day afterward, and that my muscles (especially in my neck and
back) seemed stiff and tense.
> And what r some ways to consume it after extraction?
If you insist on extracting Dextromethorphan freebase from
Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide, EXTREME precaution must be exercised.
Due to the addition of Sodium Hydroxide (a toxic chemical and
EXTREMELY basic <-- pH scale) the extract must be washed
thoroughly before ingestion. Even if you wash all the NaOH from the
freebase, the freebase in it's purest form is also extremely basic
and has been known to cause slight chemical burns on people with
sensitive skin (most often just a red, "raw", sore spot on the skin).
As a result, you should ALWAYS take the freebase with an acidic drink
in an effort to neutralize the solution. If it is not neutralized,
DXM freebase may cause ulcers or other stomach disorders. I have
always used orange juice, because it is rather acidic as far as
common beverages go (usually about 20-25 oz. per 200 mg of freebase).
You can mix it in the orange juice, or wait for the powder to dry,
put it in a capsule, and take it with the orange juice. NOTE: If you
mix it in the orange juice, be aware that the drink will be
exceptionally bitter (worse than cough syrup for some people).
Another important thing to keep in mind is that although the trip may
not be stronger or induced quicker by DXM freebase, it does hit you
all at once instead of gradually peaking.
If this is your first time trying DXM, I would suggest holding off on
the freebase until you deside whether or not the robotrip is right
for you. The reaction I have encountered most with DXM is that people
either love it or hate it with a passion. I find it enjoyable from
time to time, and recommend doing something that moves you such as an
amusement park or even going for a car ride. DO NOT DRIVE!! At high
doses especially, DXM can impare your ability to focus or even
perceive what your eyes are seeing, although you will be aware of
changes in light or dark. When I said going for a car ride, I meant
letting a sober friend drive and you be amused by sitting and
watching everything fly past you out the window. Rollercoasters can
be a religious experience for lovers of DXM. ;> Although, some
people find motion nauseating, especially those already nauseated by
the dissociative. Have fun and be safe. It doesn't hurt to learn as
much as you can about a substance *before* trying it. Over doses are
most often caused by ignorance. I don't remember the LD50 for DXM off
hand (the lethal dose in 50% of lab animals tested), but I think it
is somewhere around 30mg per kg of body weight, which makes it a
relatively safe drug. If you are interested in finding out the actual
LD50 for DXM, go to your local book store and ask where the PDRs are
(the Physicians' Desk Refernce). Then you can look it up in there. I
wouldn't recommend buying a PDR, because they are like $50.00 USD and
a new one is put out every year. Happy tripping.
A good DXM trip resulting from the
Agent Lemon extraction
I have tried DXM in various doses and never had a good experience.
All I got was sick/fever/itching/psycotic thoughts. I assume that I
lacked the enzyme that breaks down the DXM to DXO.
Then I read about the Agent Lemon extraction method. As a side
effect, excess acid in the acid stage converts to DXM to DXO. So I
figured I would give it one more try. I used ammonia, napthna, and
abscorbic acid. Gel capped the resulting DX absorbate powder and
dosed to a first plateau. All the good things I read about DXM came
true. No sickness/fever/itching/psycosis at all. Just a lot of fun. A
happy feeling, drunk like body buzz, active imagination, roll around
on the bed and listen to music, move my limbs in an exaggrated way.
My eyes used to dialate fully on DXM but with the new method they
remained normal. I imagined a fairy with wings who spread a happy
feeling. She was yellowish color, like the color of the powder I
ingested. I guess her name was Dixie Mae. The feeling made me
remember things I had long forgotten. It was fun that lasted about 6
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